So baptism doesn't in itself save a person, as I said, it's more the crowning act of all the things that precede that. But there's some action, internal to a degree external, that has to take place in the person before they are baptized. And that's why we as Anabaptists, a name that we didn't choose, it was given to us, we don't accept infant baptism because there's no faith, there's no belief there. It's based on the false assumption that I or any of you can believe for somebody else.
You know, like when you are a baby, we have faith, so I want to believe on behalf of Pierre. It doesn't work that way. It has to be a personal belief, a personal faith of your part.