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Question 3
David insists there is a “huge middle ground” between “we are totally depraved and can do no good” and “we are basically good and can save ourselves”; what are the practical, lived-out consequences of accepting that middle ground for how you talk about grace, obedience, and human responsibility?
Another way to ask: David says there’s a middle view between “humans can do no good” and “humans can save themselves.” If we accept that middle, how would it change the way we talk and live about grace, obedience, and personal responsibility?

Direct Answer Based on Bercot’s teaching, accepting the “middle ground” means we still confess total dependence on Christ’s blood and God’s grace for salvation, while also taking human responsibility, conscience, and obedience seriously because fallen people can genuinely choose to follow their spirit or their flesh.

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  • He rejects both extremes: total depravity (“we can do no good”) and self-salvation (“we can save ourselves through…good works”), calling them “extremist, unscriptural views.”
  • He states “neither I nor the early Christians believed that we can save ourselves or…earn our salvation through good works.”
  • Yet he says the Reformation view is a “huge problem” because it contradicts Scripture (Job, Zacharias/Elizabeth, “righteous men”).
  • His anthropology grounds responsibility: spirit, soul, flesh; the soul “has free will to make this choice” to follow spirit or flesh.
  • He links this to discipleship: “we still have to discipline ourselves,” citing Paul: “I discipline my body…lest…I…become disqualified.”
  • He concludes: “utter dependency on Christ’s blood…does not require us to be totally depraved.”
Discussion Follow-ups How would this reshape everyday language like “I couldn’t help it” or “only God can make me obey”? What would it change about how we call believers to repentance without implying they are earning salvation?