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Question 8
The speaker critiques “one-and-done spirituality” (a past-tense fix) and contrasts it with a spirituality of “growth…ascent…training,” where Christ is not only Savior but “teacher” and “healer.” Where have you absorbed a version of assurance that leaves little room for disciplined struggle, and how does the speaker’s “we have been saved, but we are also being saved” press on that?
Another way to ask: Where have you picked up a “I’m saved, so I’m done” kind of faith, and how does “we have been saved, but we are also being saved” challenge that?
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The speaker teaches that some Christians absorb assurance mainly as a finished past event—so struggle and discipline can feel unnecessary or even suspicious. His “we have been saved, but we are also being saved” reframes assurance to include ongoing formation, training, and healing under Christ as teacher.
- He critiques a “one-and-done spirituality” where Christ did something “past tense…everything is fixed.”
- He ties that mindset to revival-era hymn emphasis on conversion (“Amazing Grace,” “Blessed Assurance,” etc.), while affirming its truth (Ephesians 2, Colossians: transferred into light).
- He argues Scripture also teaches growth: “ascent…pedagogy,” “degree by degree into glory,” and Paul: “I discipline myself daily. I’m training.”
- He states: “Christ isn’t just the Savior, but he’s also the teacher…[and] healer,” healing us “all through our lives.”
- He explicitly summarizes: “things are past tense, but they’re also present tense. We have been saved, but we are also being saved.”