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Question 5

Alyssa claimed submission is “for everyone,” rooting it in 1 Corinthians 11 (man to Christ; Christ to the Father) and in Jesus’ struggle in Gethsemane (“not as I will, but as you will”); how does seeing submission inside the Trinity and inside Jesus’ suffering change what you think God is like—and what parts of your life most resist that kind of submission?

Another way to ask: How does it change your view of God to see submission shown within the Trinity and in Jesus in Gethsemane? What area of your life fights against that kind of submission the most?

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Direct Answer
In Alyssa’s framing, submission is not a degrading female-only demand but a Christ-shaped pattern that exists even in Christ’s relationship to the Father—making God’s authority look loving, purposeful, and sacrificial. The parts of life that resist it are the places where “my will” feels most precious, because even Jesus felt the weight of surrender in suffering.

Support from Transcript:

Alyssa insists: “submission is not only for women… Submission is for everyone.”
She uses 1 Cor. 11: “man is to be submissive to Christ… Christ… submissive to the Father.”
She points to Gethsemane as costly submission: “not as I will, but as you will,” and notes “It wasn’t always easy for him.”
She connects submission to salvation: Christ “fulfilled the Father’s will and humanity was saved because of it.”
She describes the fruit: submission “creates beauty and order… as it imitates… Christ’s relationship with his Father.”

Discussion Follow-ups When you hear “submission,” do you picture beauty and order, or fear and loss? Where do you most say (even silently), “not your will, but mine”—money decisions, relationships, time, reputation, or comfort?

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