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Question 8
At the lake Irvin felt an internal “arm wrestle” and almost walked away, then after baptism he described calm, desire for Scripture, disgust for old music, and freedom from temptation; how should Christians evaluate experiences like this without dismissing them as “just emotions” or turning them into a guaranteed formula?
Another way to ask: Irvin almost walked away, then after baptism he felt peace and new desires; how should Christians judge experiences like that without calling them “just feelings” or making them a sure formula for everyone?
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The transcript suggests Christians should take such experiences seriously by testing them through lasting fruit and ongoing relationship with God, not by instantly dismissing them or making them a repeatable method. Irvin himself waited to see if the change endured, and later learned that neglecting time with God affected temptation.
- The pre-baptism struggle was intense and will-involving: “an intense battle… like somebody was arm wrestling inside of me… ‘I’m not doing this… I’m going to walk away.’”
- Immediate effects were noticeable: “I felt a calm and a peace… After we got home, I was singing, and I never sang.”
- He tested it over time rather than hyping it: “I’m not going to tell anybody… We’ll see what happens the next couple of weeks.”
- Changes included new desires and new disgusts: Bible reading became wanted; old rap music became “disgusting”; he listened to “gospel.”
- The biggest confirmation was sustained: “about three weeks… everything I was into just left… I knew I was saved.”
- He later learned it wasn’t mechanical: when he “neglected… devotional time,” temptations returned; when he spent time with Jesus, they were not there.