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Question 6
In the Irenaeus quotes, the apostles don’t preach until they receive “perfect knowledge,” and it is “unlawful” to claim to be “improvers over the apostles”—what would it look like in practice for a modern Christian (or pastor) to act as an “improver,” and where are you tempted to do that with teachings you find hard?
Another way to ask: What would it look like today for a Christian or pastor to act like they are “improving” on what the apostles taught? Where are you tempted to adjust or soften hard teachings?

Direct Answer In Pike’s framing, an “improver” is someone who treats apostolic teaching as incomplete or outdated and claims the Spirit has given later believers better doctrine that can cancel what the apostles wrote. In practice, that looks like re-labeling clear New Testament commands as “old” and replacing them with “more enlightened” modern conclusions.

Support from Transcript:

  • Irenaeus: it is “unlawful to assert that the apostles preach before they possess perfect knowledge,” criticizing those “boasting themselves as being improvers over the apostles.”
  • Irenaeus says the apostles were filled with the Spirit and “had perfect knowledge,” then preached to the ends of the earth.
  • Pike applies this to modern patterns: people say God is “gradually revealing more truth to us over time,” implying “we’re smarter than they were back in the days of the apostles.”
  • He gives concrete examples of “improving”: using progress arguments to “nullify” Scriptures about “distinct roles of men and women.”
  • He reports the outcomes: women preaching/teaching men, women as elders/bishops, denying husband headship, even a “headless marriage.”
  • He broadens the danger: this logic is used to tolerate “homosexual lifestyles” or other sexual immorality, by claiming a “better understanding.”
Discussion Follow-ups Which teachings do you find easiest to label “cultural” because they feel costly? How can you test whether you’re seeking faithful obedience or trying to become an “improver”?