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The “wise woman” is told to persuade her husband toward true happiness, but if he won’t join her, she must pursue moral excellence anyway—yet also “gain her husband’s consent in everything,” with righteousness and salvation as the only exception; how should a group parse the boundaries of submission in this counsel, and where would modern Christians likely object?

Another way to ask: The “wise woman” should seek goodness even if her husband won’t, but also get his consent in everything except righteousness and salvation. Where are the limits of submission here, and what parts would many Christians today disagree with?

Direct Answer The counsel sets submission as the norm in household decisions, but it places a clear boundary: obedience to a husband cannot override “righteousness and salvation.” Modern Christians would likely object to how broad “gain her husband’s consent in everything” sounds and would press for more explicit limits.

Support from Transcript:

The “wise woman” should first “persuade her husband to join her in what leads to true happiness.”
If he refuses, “let her earnestly pursue moral excellence by herself,” showing her conscience before God remains active.
She should “gain her husband’s consent in everything,” indicating a general posture of deference.
“The only exception would be those things that lead to righteousness and salvation,” creating the stated boundary.
The wife’s aim is still God-directed: “make God her leader and the guide for all her actions.”

Discussion Follow-ups What kinds of situations today would fall under “righteousness and salvation”? How do we apply this without either ignoring conscience or turning every disagreement into a spiritual exception?

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