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Question 6
David calls the Protestant insistence on penal substitution as a non-negotiable “dogma” the “elephant in the room” and even “Pharisaic and judgmental”; where have you seen Christians questioned as “not even a Christian” over atonement mechanics, and what does David’s critique demand about how a serious church should handle doctrinal boundaries?
Another way to ask: David says treating penal substitution as a required test of faith is “Pharisaic and judgmental.” Where have you seen people called “not even a Christian” over how they explain the atonement, and what should a healthy church do with boundaries on doctrine?
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David says the real crisis is not holding a theory, but demanding penal substitution as the test of Christianity and condemning dissenters; he calls that posture sinful, “Pharisaic,” and judgmental. His critique suggests churches should keep the essentials centered on Christ’s saving death and blood-cleansing, while allowing room for differing explanations of the “mechanics.”
- He notes many Protestants do not teach it as a theory but “insist on it as a dogma,” claiming “penal substitution is the Christian faith.”
- He says some claim you’re “a heretic” or “aren't even a Christian if you question penal substitution.”
- He calls this attitude “incredibly Pharisaic and judgmental… it is sin to take that kind of attitude.”
- He clarifies Dean Taylor is not doing this; Dean treats penal substitution as a “theory” and accepts Christus Victor as valid.
- David’s ideal: if people kept it as theory, “there would be no big issue here,” and believers should “be charitable towards those who think differently.”