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Question 3
The lesson asks whether “Augustine or the entire body of Christians who lived before him” was right; what assumptions about God’s guidance of the Church are at stake in that question, and how does it confront common Protestant instincts about tradition and “just me and my Bible”?
Another way to ask: If Augustine disagrees with most Christians before him, what does that say about how God guides the Church over time? How does this challenge the “just me and my Bible” way of thinking?

Direct Answer The question assumes it matters whether the broader early Church could collectively misunderstand Romans for centuries, and it presses the issue of whether God’s people had a generally reliable understanding before Augustine’s “radically new interpretation.” It confronts a “just me and my Bible” instinct by forcing us to ask why we would trust one later, influential interpreter over the earlier Christian consensus.

Support from Transcript:

  • The speaker frames it sharply: “So who was right? Augustine or the entire body of Christians who lived before him?”
  • He asks whether “the entire body of Christ misunderstand Romans until Augustine came on the scene.”
  • He pushes it back to the recipients: “Did the first century Christians in Rome misunderstand the very letter written to them—particularly after Paul spent at least two years among them.”
  • He says Augustine’s view became “the new orthodoxy” in the Western Church due to “enormous influence… and ties with the Roman Emperor,” and dissenters were branded heretics.
  • He claims modern Protestant readings often follow Augustine via “Calvin” and “Luther,” meaning “Bible-believing Protestants” may be inheriting a tradition without noticing.
Discussion Follow-ups If the earliest Christians read Romans differently, what does that suggest about the safety of relying on inherited systems (whether Protestant or Catholic) without checking earlier sources?