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Question 7
Bercot argues that the second-century church appears to have taken Jesus’ warnings in Revelation seriously by correcting laxity in church discipline. What would it cost modern churches to recover that kind of seriousness about excluding persistent immorality and idolatry from the body?
Another way to ask: Bercot says the second-century church seems to have taken Jesus’ warnings in Revelation seriously by correcting weak church discipline. What would it cost churches today to take a strong stand against ongoing sin and idolatry in the church?

Direct Answer

The transcript does not directly discuss the cost to modern churches, but it implies that recovering such seriousness would require rejecting lax discipline and actually excluding persistent immoral or idolatrous influences. That would likely be difficult because it demands obedience in church practice, not merely agreement in doctrine.

Support from Transcript

- Bercot identifies the main fault in Revelation as moral: "Their problems were not theological. Rather, their problems were moral." - He says the churches’ "primary problem" was being "lax in their church discipline." - He specifically says immoral and idolatrous people "like the Nicolaitans and the woman Jezebel needed to be put out of the church." - Revelation’s quoted rebuke says Jezebel "teaches and leads my bondservants astray" into immorality and idolatry. - Bercot says the second-century record indicates that the churches "took Jesus's words to heart." - He says they "corrected this laxity in discipline."

Discussion Follow-ups

The transcript does not name modern consequences such as loss of members, conflict, or reputation, so those would be applications beyond the chapter’s explicit content.