Skip to content

Add your phone number?

Optional. Nothing is sent unless you choose it.

The Historic Faith
Sign in

Jumpstarter 9 of 10

Ideas to help restart your discussion
Question 9
Dean imagines a conquering king’s “train of shackled prisoners” and asks whether he can show the Lord “a train of evil…thoughts taken captive”; what would it look like to measure “victory” by captured thoughts and imaginations rather than by winning arguments, protecting reputation, or controlling outcomes?
Another way to ask: Dean asks if he can show God a “train” of evil thoughts taken captive. What would it look like to define victory by controlling your thoughts and imagination instead of winning arguments, saving face, or controlling results?

Direct Answer Measuring victory this way would mean valuing inner obedience—sinful thoughts restrained and redirected—more than outward dominance in conflicts. Dean’s picture suggests the true battlefield includes “imaginations” and “every thought,” so “winning” looks like thoughts being brought “to the obedience of Christ.”

Support from Transcript:

  • Dean quotes 2 Corinthians 10: “pulling down of strongholds, casting down imaginations…bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ.”
  • He personalizes it with questions: “Am I…casting down sinful and destructive imaginations?” and “taking every thought captive?”
  • He uses the conquest image: a king entering a city with “a train of shackled prisoners…showing everyone who was most powerful.”
  • He applies it spiritually: “Could I show the Lord a train of evil, lustful, prideful thoughts taken captive by the power of his Spirit?”
  • He contrasts this with worldly weaponry and outcomes: spiritual weapons can be “mightier than…battleships and nuclear missiles.”
Discussion Follow-ups How would your week look different if your main goal was captured thoughts rather than a captured narrative? What thoughts most need to be “shackled” in you right now?