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Discussion Jumpstarter

Study leader reference - not a definitive answer
Question 4
In describing the first centuries, he says heaven’s attention wasn’t on the Roman Senate or theaters but on catacombs, prisons, and Christians praying for executioners; what does this imply about God’s definition of glory, and how does it judge what captures the church’s attention now?
Another way to ask: If heaven cared more about suffering Christians and their prayers than Rome’s famous leaders and shows, what does that say God calls “glory”? How does that question what grabs the church’s attention now?
Discussion Jumpstarter

Direct Answer
The transcript implies God’s glory is seen most clearly in suffering love, truth, and prayer for enemies—not in cultural prestige or political significance. That judges a church that chases visibility, entertainment, and worldly respect, because heaven is watching for Christlike character rather than impressive platforms.

Support from Transcript:
  • He describes Christians in Europe displayed the kingdom “in arenas” and “on countless crosses,” praying “for their executioners.”
  • He says angels likely were not interested in the “Roman Senate” or “Roman theaters,” but focused on “catacombs and prisons” where believers worshiped and prayed for persecutors.
  • He states the medieval church forgot the kingdom “shines and expands through the blood of martyrs, not that of pagans.”
  • He critiques modern methods: “stadium lights and music volumes,” worship that resembles sports fandom, and churches chasing attention.
  • He argues “the church has the power to either dim the light… or shine brightly like it did in the 1st century.”
Discussion Follow-ups If heaven measures glory by enemy-love, what ministries would we fund differently? What captures our attention that catacomb-Christians would find irrelevant?