Discussion Jumpstarter
Study leader reference - not a definitive answer
Question 9
The speaker admits “nobody” knows what “she will be saved in childbearing” means, yet insists “we need to have faith, and we need to believe that” and that there’s a “redemptive factor” in it; how should a serious Christian respond when Scripture is unclear—what does faithful submission look like without pretending certainty?
Another way to ask: If no one is sure what “she will be saved in childbearing” means, how should Christians respond when a Bible verse is unclear? What does obeying in faith look like without acting like you’re certain?
Discussion Jumpstarter
Direct Answer
The speaker models admitting limits—saying there is “really no consensus”—while still submitting to Scripture by believing it is true and has a “redemptive factor,” even when the meaning is not fully understood. Faithful submission, in his framing, is humble honesty plus trust, not forced certainty.
- He asks for an explanation, then answers: “Well, I can’t either. And the fact is nobody can.”
- He reports historical uncertainty: “historically, there is really no consensus… there are some ideas… but we really don’t know.”
- Yet he insists on faith: “But we need to have faith, and we need to believe that.”
- He ties it to God’s remedial purpose: “There is a redemptive factor in that,” likening it to “childbearing is a remedy for the women” as “thorns and thistles is a remedy for the man.”
- He also leans on broader biblical framing of sorrow-to-joy (John 16:21), suggesting meaning may be experienced even when details are unclear.