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Question 8
The speaker lists Reformers (Luther, Zwingli, Calvin) as “brilliant…godly men” who nevertheless accepted Christendom and persecuted dissenters; how do you respond to his claim that they “just took this virus without questioning it,” and what does that imply for how Protestants should evaluate their theological inheritance?
Another way to ask: How do you react to the claim that even godly Reformers accepted Christendom and persecuted dissenters without questioning it? What does that mean for how Protestants should judge what we inherited from them?
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The transcript pushes Protestants to hold a both-and response: respect the Reformers’ genuine contributions while also admitting they carried forward a deadly church-state assumption “without questioning it.” This implies Protestants should evaluate their inheritance through Jesus’ teachings, not treat historical theology as immune from correction.
- He calls the Reformers “brilliant…godly men” who did “marvelous things” for salvation by faith and giving the Bible.
- Yet he says they “just accepted and brought [Christendom] along with them,” creating a “Protestant Christendom.”
- He gives examples: Luther’s harsh writings (against peasants, Jews) and statement that “Anabaptists deserve the death sentence.”
- Zwingli’s circle executes Anabaptists; Felix Manz is drowned because he refused infant baptism.
- Calvin’s Protestant Christendom leads to persecution of Anabaptists and the burning of Servetus.
- He insists, “There’s a virus in it that must be rooted out,” and warns the same theology in similar crises yields similar outcomes.