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Discussion Jumpstarter

Study leader reference - not a definitive answer
Question 6
The prayer “Thy kingdom come… on earth as it is in heaven” is linked to the throne room image: “modest… shielding their faces… crying, ‘Holy, holy, holy.’” How does connecting modesty and clothing to heavenly worship reshape what “holiness” means— and does that feel spiritually clarifying or dangerously subjective?
Another way to ask: How does linking modest clothing with worship in heaven change what “holiness” means, and does that feel helpful or like it could become too based on personal opinion?
Discussion Jumpstarter

Direct Answer
The speaker connects holiness with reverent humility—imagining heavenly beings “shielding their faces”—and then applies that posture to how Christians present themselves, including modest clothing. The transcript presents this as spiritually clarifying for her (a simple, humble direction), though it could feel subjective because she’s applying a throne-room picture to everyday dress.

Support from Transcript:
  • She ties the prayer to a visual: “When we pray, ‘Thy kingdom come…’ I think of that throne room.”
  • She describes heavenly reverence in modest terms: “They’re modest, they’re shielding their faces, and they’re crying, ‘Holy, holy, holy.’”
  • She admits her distance from that holiness: “I know I’m so far from that.”
  • She frames modesty as part of a lifelong pursuit: “I want to continue… to say, how do I bring that kingdom here?”
  • She emphasizes simplicity and lowliness rather than complexity: “probably… a simple application… Jesus came lowly.”
Discussion Follow-ups What makes an application “clarifying” rather than merely personal preference? How can we keep heavenly-minded holiness from becoming a set of unspoken rules that others must adopt?