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Question 2
Dean Taylor described the “categorically different” thing about modern life as our remarkable secularism (his Sugar Creek Fair vs. ancient Greek sacrifices comparison); what practices or habits would help a church recover a living sense that God is truly present and “this really matters” without sliding into superstition?
Another way to ask: What habits could help a church feel that God is truly present and what we do really matters—without becoming superstitious?
Discussion Jumpstarter

Direct Answer
The transcript suggests a church recovers God’s “real presence” not by chasing signs, but by returning to Scripture, a “pre-modern” awareness of the transcendent, and practical obedience to Jesus within a committed community.

Support from Transcript:
  • Dean contrasts ancient cultures’ constant “sacrifice… to Zeus or whatever” with today: “now we are just remarkably secular.”
  • Stephen says we must “go back… more aware of there’s something transcendental,” because the West has “lost the transcendental.”
  • Both commend learning from eras when people believed “there’s really a God and this really matters,” even while admitting their violence was wrong.
  • Dean anchors renewal in concrete Christian convictions: “we do believe Christ has come… given us the Word of God… wants his kingdom… established.”
  • In closing, Dean calls for “the simplicity of Christ… the word of God without complicated interpretation… practical application as a blueprint.”
  • Stephen adds we don’t need to “reinvent the wheel”; the church has a heritage “all the way” back to Pentecost.
Discussion Follow-ups How might Bible-saturated worship and obedience guard us from superstition on one side and dead secularism on the other? What would “practical application” of Jesus’ words look like in your congregation this month?