Skip to content
The Historic Faith
Sign in

Discussion Questions

PDF
Tip: Discuss these with your study group.
David Bercot opens by contrasting the rich young ruler who said “no” with Waldysius, a rich merchant who said “yes” to Jesus’ command to sell and give—what does this comparison suggest about God’s intentions for wealthy disciples, and what opportunities we may be refusing when we treat Jesus’ words as “for someone else”? JumpstartAnother way to ask: What does the difference between the rich young ruler (who said no) and Waldysius (who said yes) show about what God wants from rich followers? What chances might we miss when we assume Jesus’ commands are “for someone else”?
The turning point for Waldysius was not a Bible study but a minstrel’s ballad about Alexis—a man who embraced obscurity, poverty, and hidden service for 17 years under his father’s staircase; what does that story reveal about what God may value, and how does it confront modern instincts to seek impact, recognition, and “platform”? JumpstartAnother way to ask: What does the story of Alexis living in hidden poverty and service for 17 years show about what God values? How does it challenge our desire to be noticed, have influence, and build a “platform”?
Waldysius described wealth as “a heavy chain” and said he was freeing himself because riches made him “a lover of money more than a lover of God”; what are the most socially acceptable “chains” in today’s Christianity that can still be defended as normal, and how would we recognize them as spiritual oppression rather than harmless comfort? JumpstartAnother way to ask: What “chains” do Christians today accept as normal even if they pull us away from loving God (like comfort or money)? How can we tell when they are hurting us spiritually instead of being harmless?
The “poor in spirit” wanted to take Jesus’ teachings “literally and seriously” (wealth, non-resistance, loving enemies, etc.); which specific teachings in the Sermon on the Mount become hardest to treat literally in your context, and what do our creative reinterpretations imply about our trust in Jesus’ wisdom? JumpstartAnother way to ask: Which teachings in the Sermon on the Mount are hardest for people in your setting to take literally (like money, not resisting, loving enemies)? When we explain them away, what does that say about how much we trust Jesus?
Bercot stresses that the Waldensians initially had no desire to form a new church and thought of themselves as good Catholics helping others become better Catholics; what does their early “spiritual naivety” expose about how religious institutions respond when ordinary believers pursue obedience with visible results? JumpstartAnother way to ask: The Waldensians didn’t try to start a new church and thought they were helping Catholics obey better—what does that show about how institutions react when regular people obey Jesus and it’s obvious? What does their “naivety” reveal about that?
The archbishop’s command was blunt: “Preaching belongs to the clergy,” and Waldysius replied, “preaching belongs to everyone who chooses truly to live like the apostles”; how does that clash redefine spiritual authority, and what modern equivalents exist where credentialing silently outranks Christlike obedience? JumpstartAnother way to ask: When the archbishop said only clergy can preach, Waldysius said anyone living like the apostles can—what does that say about who should have spiritual authority? Where today do degrees or titles quietly matter more than Christlike obedience?
At the Lateran Council, the educated monk Walter Map mocked them over the phrase “Mother of Christ” (not knowing the later council language “Mother of God”); what does this episode reveal about the difference between being biblically grounded and being institutionally fluent, and where might our own circles confuse theological sophistication with genuine spiritual qualification? JumpstartAnother way to ask: What does Walter Map mocking them over the “Mother of Christ” phrase show about knowing the Bible versus knowing church language and customs? Where do we mistake being theologically impressive for being truly spiritually qualified?
Waldysius agreed to sign a Catholic declaration of faith but added a handwritten note that his poverty was “obedience to Jesus Christ, not…perfection on behalf of the church”; where do Christians today subtly obey “church expectations” or subculture norms instead of Jesus’ commands, and how could you tell the difference in your own decisions? JumpstartAnother way to ask: Waldysius said his poverty was obedience to Jesus, not a way to earn “perfection” for the church—where do Christians today follow church culture expectations more than Jesus’ commands? How can you spot the difference in your own choices?
Bercot says the Waldensians’ “Noble Lesson” reflects what evangelicals would label a “works theology,” yet he argues they were relying on obedience as evidence of love and trust in Christ; how does this challenge common evangelical assumptions about grace, assurance, and the role of obedience, and what parts of your gospel presentation might the Waldensians have rejected as dangerously incomplete? JumpstartAnother way to ask: If the Waldensians saw obedience as proof of love and trust, how does that challenge common evangelical ideas about grace, assurance, and obedience? What parts of how you explain the gospel might they say are missing something important?
The Waldensians refused oaths, rejected the sword (self-defense/war), avoided wealth, and became known for truthfulness—even to the point that a suspect said, “I lie. I’m a good Catholic”; if a non-Christian had to prove you were a disciple by one unmistakable behavioral marker, what would it be, and what concrete habit changes would be required for that marker to become publicly obvious? JumpstartAnother way to ask: If a non-Christian could pick only one clear behavior to prove you follow Jesus, what would it be? What specific habit changes would you need to make so that sign is obvious to others?

Discussion Jumpstarter

Discussion stalled? Read the Jumpstarter for help getting conversation flowing again.

Discussion Jumpstarter

Discussion stalled? Read the Jumpstarter for help getting conversation flowing again.