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Study leader reference - not a definitive answer
Question 3
In the woman-and-dragon scene, the child “is to rule all the nations with a rod of iron” (Psalm 2) and is “caught up to God into his throne”; what does this depict about God’s purpose and sovereignty in history, especially when evil still seems active on earth?
Another way to ask: What does the child who will “rule the nations” and is taken to God’s throne show about God being in control of history, even when evil still looks strong on earth?
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Direct Answer
Based on the speaker’s explanation, the scene depicts Jesus as the promised ruler (Psalm 2) who is enthroned with God, meaning God’s plan has advanced decisively even while the dragon remains active on earth for a limited time. Evil’s activity is real, but it operates under the reality that Jesus already has “all authority.”
- The child “is to rule all the nations with a rod of iron. This is Psalm 2 again.”
- The child “is caught up to God into his throne,” which the speaker identifies as Jesus.
- The speaker summarizes: Jesus “died and rose again. He’s seated at the right hand of God. All authority is given to him.”
- He connects the enthronement to Satan’s loss of status: “the accuser of the brethren has been thrown out.”
- Yet he notes ongoing conflict: “the dragon’s kicked down to earth, but he’s not destroyed yet… his time is short.”